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Twisted Willow Traffic Meeting this Wednesday

Last year developers vested a 100+ home subdivision called Twisted Willows over in Glenrose that proposed to have all the traffic enter and exit on 42nd Avenue on the east side of Southgate. They were asked by the County to redesign their plans to have traffic exiting to Glenrose (and ideally 37th Avenue as well).

There will be a new traffic impact meeting (announcement includes new plan) at 6:15pm this Wednesday, April 15th at Fire Station 81 (6117 S. Palouse Hwy.) to discuss an updated design that will have traffic entering and exiting on both 42nd and 43rd Avenues into Southgate and potentially through Trickle Creek to Glenrose.

I encourage you to look over the proposed new subdivision layout and come to the meeting to ask questions (for example):

What is the estimated amount of traffic related to this subdivision? According to 2009 data from the US Federal Highway Administration, each of these new homes could be creating 9 new car trips a day for a total of over 1,000 new vehicle trips coming into Southgate. Unless the exits to Glenrose Rd. and 37th Ave. are actually built all of those trips will be directed into Southgate and on to Havana Street.

If there are exits to Glenrose and 37th, what are the plans to improve those roads to handle the extra traffic? Currently Glenrose and 37th are built to rural county standards with no sidewalks or bike lans. The intersection of 37th and Glenrose is controlled only by a stop sign on 37th. Additionally, there is a proposed sports complex on the SW corner of Glenrose and 37th that will add even more traffic to the area, is that being considered in traffic impacts for the area?

Will the subdivision roads include sidewalks? Current County road standards require sidewalks on both sides of the road.

Why is the block of Custer Rd. from 42nd to 43rd “To Be Vacated”?

I will post a summary of the meeting after it happens Wednesday.

Southgate “Green Ring” Ride at Opening Day for Trails

This Saturday is Opening Day for Trails, an event to encourage folks to check out our regional hiking and biking trails. Info about the event can be found at
Green Ring Ride Map
In Southgate we will be having a bike ride around the proposed “Green Ring” highlighted in our neighborhood Connectivity Plan.

I put together a map for the route (see attached). It’s about 6.5 miles and it starts and ends at Ben Burr Park. The ride will begin at 10am.

People should RSVP by emailing


Havana Street Water Main/44th Avenue Trail Project – Update #2

The city’s Engineering Department revealed more details on the Havana Street Water Project and associated 44th Avenue Trail at an open house at Chase Middle School last Thursday. Updates centered on design features of the re-vamped Havana Street and a little more information on the trail. The city has posted a new blog post on this as well.

The biggest news is the inclusion of pervious asphalt for the entire length of the new bike lanes from 37th to Glenrose Road. This will be a storm water pilot project for the city, the pervious asphalt will allow run off and snow melt to soak directly into the ground instead of taking up capacity in the city’s storm water system. It’s part of the city’s new goal to adopt low-impact development principles in their planning and engineering.


This also has led to the biggest design changes from the last open house: the elimination of gutters, curbs and planter strips. If you look at the latest cross sections and renderings from the city’s blog post, you’ll see that there are no curbs or planted buffer strips included in the plan, just gravel swales between the sidewalks and the bike lanes. One reason given was to maintain on-street parking for residents living on Havana Street. Another reason was a safety measure for the new pervious asphalt. In the event of a major storm event, or if the pervious pavement doesn’t perform as expected, the gravel swales will allow for excess water to be absorbed into the ground under the swales. This design will also not have any traditional drainage or pipes found in city streets, the city is relying on the natural permeability of the ground to absorb run off (based on a full geotechnical study conducted last spring).

The gravel swales can be planted with trees and low shrubs, but the city is leaving that up to each individual property owner since they are going to rely on the land owners to maintain the plantings. They will install a drop irrigation system to hook into your existing system. Some homes will not be able to have trees due to the Yellowstone petroleum pipeline running down Havana Street.


The County has confirmed that they will complete the portion of Havana from the city limits to Glenrose in the same style as the city’s portion. Once on Glenrose, the County is just going to dig and patch up a small portion of the right-of-way to replace the water main, they will not be adding new sidewalks or creating bike lanes.

There was some brief news on the 44th Avenue Trail. The city has determined to make the trail 10′ wide (the minimum width allowed by their design guidelines) so it will match the other trails in the area like the Ben Burr Trail. It will be built to American with Disabilities Act (ADA) specs, so it will be paved. They don’t have a final design yet, but they were able to say that they are looking at a meandering, curved path design from Freya to Myrtle, and a more straightened design from Myrtle to Havana to maintain access to back gates along 44th.

44th_tree_clearing 44th_pipe_installation

The city reps said they will be replanting native ponderosa pines after the trail work is completed. They are also encouraging neighbors to work with the city’s Urban Forestry Department to talk about replanting areas adjacent to the trail once the work is done. The Southgate Neighborhood Council will work with interested neighbors to submit a Greening Grant to the city for even more landscaping along the new trail. If interested please contact us here.

As before, we welcome your comments here and the city is looking for feedback on their blog as well. You can also email them directly by contacting Julie Happy. We will keep you posted on design updates and any new info as we get it.

Shaping Spokane – Your Chance to Provide Input on the New City Comprehensive Plan (and win a prize)

Spokane is in the beginning stages of updating their 20 year Comprehensive Plan. This guiding document sets the vision and path for the city as it tackles issues of land use, transportation, economic development, public health, capital project planning, and more.  The Comprehensive Plan is the foundational document for developing new ordinances and policies to realize the vision it lays out.

Right now the City Planning Department is asking for citizen input into the neighborhood portion of the Comp Plan through a project called Shaping Spokane. Shaping Spokane has three ways for the public to provide input:

1) A short online survey about our neighborhood

2) An interactive map tool to highlight points of interest in the neighborhood

3) A long form survey called “My Neighborhood Story” to provide in-depth information about the neighborhood and its character. This long survey takes 30-45 minutes, but you will be entered in a weekly prize drawing to win things like symphony tickets and gift baskets from local retailers.

The information from these surveys and maps will be used by city staff to develop a profile for each neighborhood to be appended to the new version of the Comprehensive Plan. To see a draft neighborhood profile, click here. In addition to individual neighbor input, the city is asking each neighborhood council to provide input through these tools as well. The SNC Land Use Committee will work to draft a response to My Neighborhood Story that incorporates the goals and features of our existing open space and connectivity plans.

We strongly encourage you to submit comments via the surveys. This is your chance to have your voice heard directly in the city planning process and extol the virtues of the Southgate Neighborhood. The bigger database of answers they have, the more reflective the new Comp Plan will be of our goals and desires. If you have any questions, you can contact